Episode 18: “Peter Pan” by Patty Griffin with Kim Caldwell

It’s bangarang, Dear Listeners, as we leave Neverland with Patty Griffin’s “Peter Pan,” brought by whole human woman and this episode's guest Kim Caldwell. A wistful but firm examination of lovingly leaving what we’ve outgrown, the discussion covers the art that gives us clear directions in life, the hard truth that believing isn’t enough to make something real, and the feeling of deeply comforting melancholy. Also, we all agree that Peter Pan does not have an email address but Captain Hook does have an Only Fans.